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« on: March 17, 2019, 12:03:13 AM »

Now that free agency is mostly in the bag, it’s time for personnel staffs for all 32 teams to turn their attention to the draft, and try to fill any remaining holes that way. Two teams going in different directions might just make trades ahead of the draft to augment their efforts at the game’s most important position.

As I pointed out yesterday, the Raiders just spent nearly $100 million in contract money for Antonio Brown and Tyrell Williams, two of the NFL’s best speed receivers. But they have a quarterback in Derek Carr who struggles to maintain consistently on deep throws. Oklahoma’s Kyler Murray is the most effective deep thrower in the draft, and he has a ton of other attributes. The Giants are… well, we don’t really know what the heck general manager Dave Gettleman is up to, but we do know that he’ll have to replace Eli Manning sooner than later. Preferably sooner.

To that end, in this mock draft, we have Oakland and the Giants making trades up to the first and second overall spots, where they select Murray and Ohio State’s Dwayne Haskins.

The mechanics look like this: The Raiders trade up to get the first overall pick, giving up the fourth and 27th overall picks to the Arizona Cardinals to do so. Then, the Giants trade up for the second overall pick, giving the 49ers the sixth and 17th picks in return. This keeps Josh Rosen in Arizona for one more season, but getting two first-rounders is too attractive to a Cardinals team in need of an overall rebuild. Similarly, the 49ers would be very happy to back out of the second overall slot and get two reasonably high picks in return. They have no quarterback issues as long as Jimmy Garoppolo returns from his torn ACL as he was before.

So, if this all happens, what do the Raiders do with Derek Carr? They could offload him to a QB-needy team like Miami, or keep him for a year and hope the Alex Smith/Patrick Mahomes plan repeats itself. Carr is going into the third year of the five year, $125.025 million extension he signed in 2017, he’s got a $22.5 million cap hit this year that the team can absorb even after all their deals, and he has no guaranteed salary and relatively painless dead cap hits starting in 2020. Similarly, the Giants could go all in on Eli Manning for one more year, ask him to mentor Haskins, and cut loose after that. Although, Manning has a $23.2 million cap hit this year and just $6.2 million in dead cap if he’s released, and the Giants are in rebuilding mode whether Gettleman thinks so or not, so…

In any case, here’s how one first-round draft might look with those two moves made..........




https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/03/15/doug-farrars-mock-draft-3-0-post-free-agency-edition/

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2019, 12:15:24 AM »

Why Raiders have to trade up and select Kyler Murray with first overall pick



By: Doug Farrar | March 14, 2019 5:00 pm ET

With the 2019 free agency space pretty much packed up, NFL teams are turning their attention back to draft prospects. Every team will now take a good look at the free agents they gained and lost, and that will affect their draft boards to a greater or lesser degree.

Here’s one thing we know: The Raiders traded for Antonio Brown and signed Tyrell Williams, and they have Derek Carr ostensibly throwing deep passes to two of the NFL’s best deep receivers.

This is a bit like asking Ed Sheeran to replace Dimebag Darrell.

Carr is not an estimable deep passer — last season, per Pro Football Focus, he threw passes of 20 or more air yards just 9.2 percent of the time, dead last among quarterbacks taking at least 50 percent of their team’s snaps, per Pro Football Focus.

You can argue to a point that Carr didn’t have a lot of deep threats, but you could also look at Carr’s tape and see the inherent deficiencies. Even in 2016, which was Carr’s best NFL year before he was injured late in the season, he threw the ball deep on just 10 percent of his attempts. He’s a decent deep thrower, nothing more. It’s not a primary component of his skill set.

This presents a problem for Raiders head coach and offensive play designer Jon Gruden, who must scheme his new deep targets open and trust his quarterback to hit them in stride. In 2018, per PFF, Brown caught 14 passes of 20 or more air yards for 486 yards and a league-leading nine touchdowns. Obviously, Brown was playing with Ben Roethlisberger, whose deep arm is above reproach. And Williams, one of the more underrated deep targets in the NFL with the Chargers over the last few seasons, led his team last year with nine deep receptions on 17 targets for 348 yards and three touchdowns. Ain’t no problem with Philip Rivers’ deep throws, either.

After trading for him, the Raiders increased Brown’s total compensation over the next three years from $38.9 million to $50.1 million and bumped his guaranteed money from nothing to $30.1 million. They then gave Williams a four-year, $44 million contract. NFL contracts are always full of funny money, but on its face, you can argue that the Raiders just spent nearly $100 million in total on two receivers to expand their deep passing game.

And that’s why the Raiders need to take the fourth overall pick in next month’s draft, and one of their picks in the 20s, to trade up with the Cardinals so they can select Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray at No. 1.

Let’s throw the height questions, the combine questions, the pro day questions and whatever garbage comes out of Charley Casserly’s mouth aside and go back to the tape, which clearly shows Murray to be a rare deep thrower, with especially sound accuracy under pressure and on the move.

At the scouting combine, Gruden was asked about Murray’s height and whether it would factor into his NFL potential.

“I don’t know what the physical concerns are,” Gruden said. “Are you talking about the height? I think that’s been proven to not be as much a factor as maybe it was years ago. If you ask Russell Wilson or [Drew] Brees, or the kid in Cleveland [Baker Mayfield], I don’t know that it’s a true impact on the position or the performance.”

Gruden is absolutely right in Murray’s case. He’s shown the ability to move to either side of the line and pick up throwing lanes, and he can also throw from the pocket just fine, even when he’s got a bunch of linemen right in front of him. Per Pro Football Focus, Murray’s average depth of target of 12.0 ranked seventh in the NCAA last season, and his deep passing completion percentage of 51.9 percent also ranked seventh. Per Sports Info Solutions, 2,264 of Murray’s 4,361 passing yards last year were air yards, and he had a 148.6 rating on deep throws when not pressured, and a 113.8 rating when pressured. Overall, his 76.5 adjusted completion percentage against pressure ranked first overall in college football, which will play well when Murray is behind an offensive line that is very much a work in progress.

And when you hit the tape, you see a lot of preposterous throws like this 49-yard touchdown pass to Charleston Rambo late in the third quarter against Alabama. It would’ve had NFL analysts scrambling for words if Brees or Wilson had thrown it. Murray is clearly comfortable navigating through pressure in the pocket, and just as comfortable launching off his release point and making an ideally timed pass.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/03/14/why-the-raiders-have-to-trade-up-and-select-kyler-murray-with-the-first-overall-pick/
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Re: ARE YOU GUY'S GOOD WITH THIS?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 08:09:04 AM »

Fuck Murray.

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 11:32:28 AM »

I say pass..

We need to ride with Carr 1 more year IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 01:49:44 PM »

I say pass..

We need to ride with Carr 1 more year IMO.

I concur
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Re: ARE YOU GUY'S GOOD WITH THIS?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 09:15:10 PM »

It's all fine and dandy but which team is going to take on Carrs contract and big cap hit? It's just not going to happen. If they didnt want Carr they should have released him before his contract became guaranteed.25mill cap hit. Someone would have to believe in Carr that much to absorb it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2019, 07:04:02 AM »

The only other time Carr has had the same system two years in a row (Musgrave year two), he lit up the league. He won't be going anywhere till they see him in year two of this system with all his shiny new toys.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 09:28:39 AM »

Gru is giving Carr all the best chances to prove himself.  Solidarity definitely helps, and so will a bolstered OL and WR corps.  Better D will help as well.  Sit tight with Carr, this upcoming year could be really good.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2019, 10:39:04 AM »

Murray is a pud. 

Almost all of free agency has been geared towards reloading this team for Carr. 

Who ever said Carr has been inconsistent on deep balls?  I didn't see too many open receivers deep last season.   Its crazy how narratives get thrown around and morph into pseudo facts in our society.  Not trigger anyone but the term "Fake News" is so appropriate.

Gruden knows what he has in Carr.  Starting over with a rookie and trying to teach him the offense and dealing with the rookie learning curve in the NFL is taking a huge chance going into Vegas.  His 10 year contract seemed ridiculous but its already down to 9.  If Carr works out we could start winning next year.  If we move to a rookie with the first overall pick and he fails it could set our team back 10 more years.

Besides if we went QB number one we would be passing up on one of the big 3 pass rushers.  A position we didn't address in free agency. 



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