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 21 
 on: January 15, 2019, 05:19:18 PM 
Started by Raider 8 - Last post by varaider
Cooper had 6-65 and a TD and Gallup had 119 yds.

It would be hard to find a one cell creatue in the Galaxy that is dumber than peters

Who's playing next week?

Peters or Cooper?

In the game of football (especially playoffs)... the winner can say whatever the FUCK he wants...  there is no "Game 2"...

IJS...

That's the exact response I would expect from you, you and Peters would get along great.

That's probably the exact response you'd get from 99% of the football world...

"To the winner goes the spoils"...

Exactly the response I knew I'd get from you, Always gotta make it personal tho, like a lil bitch...

 ;D ;D ;D

 22 
 on: January 15, 2019, 05:17:12 PM 
Started by ElevatorRaidersfanPA - Last post by varaider
The only way for him to "compete" in TC, is to bring in legit competition...

Agreed


You guys can't say, "Carr needs to be the man moving forward" and then be "ok" with competition...

Bullshit! We can do exactly that. Give me one good reason we can't?


True comp for Carr will have to be a high profile draft pick or Free Agent, period... a 4th round prospect or league journeyman won't do the trick...

So either Carr is the guy... or you draft someone to BE the guy.... there is no in between...

You wouldn't have considered Plunkett or Gannon League Journeyman? What about Kurt Warner? HE went undrafted, spent time in the Arena League for gods sake's, and bagged groceries before winning superbowls. Brady went in the 6th. Russel Wilson went in the 3rd. Montana went in the 3rd. Thiesman went in the 4th. Gannon went in the 4th. There are more but I would like to think you would get the picture. (Let me guess, "you could name more, but you didn't so you can't" is coming my way)

So really, Carr could be the guy. And we could draft legit competition in then later rounds.

It's quite possible.

If you say so...

Either Carr is the man... Or he isn't... there is no in between...

You think some no name is going to come here and push Carr out of the starting spot, so be it...

I don't see it happening... Especially when DC get's 99% of the reps... and maybe 20 snaps total in preseason...

If it's not a big name draftee or Free Agent, it won't happen... What comes with those are fan and media pressure. (which are usually the driving factors of QB changes).. Not going to get that with Joe Shmoe from the 6th round... or Nathan Peterman... Sorry you feel differently...

I would hardly call any of the names I mentioned as a Joe Shmoe type players. All are former pro-bowlers, Superbowl winners, and/or Hall of Famer's. But OK.

I would agree that as rounds (draft) or years (journeyman) go by, the odds of finding a gem get worse. But it's still a possibility that seems to happen at least fairly often.

I'm not sorry I feel differently. Nor am I sorry you feel differently. We can disagree and that is fine. I'm good with that. I feel there can be plenty of in between and in between opinions. And I will respect anyone's opinion as long as the respect flows both ways.  :cheers

And I edited this quoted comment, before you posted...

 23 
 on: January 15, 2019, 05:13:48 PM 
Started by ElevatorRaidersfanPA - Last post by varaider
I would hardly call any of the names I mentioned as a Joe Shmoe type players. All are former pro-bowlers, Superbowl winners, and/or Hall of Famer's. But OK.

ALL HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CHANCE OF REPLACING DEREK CARR ON THE OAKLAND RAIDERS! 
So obviously, they aren't included in my "Joe Shmoe" reference... I'm talking about 2019 Derek Carr my brother... Not NFL Films...

I would agree that as rounds (draft) or years (journeyman) go by, the odds of finding a gem get worse. But it's still a possibility that seems to happen at least fairly often.

Again, who is this prodigal savior you speak of?  Because without a name, wouldn't "Joe Shmoe" be an accurate assessment... (Considering Joe Shmoe basically means a nobody)

I'm not sorry I feel differently. Nor am I sorry you feel differently. We can disagree and that is fine. I'm good with that. I feel there can be plenty of in between and in between opinions. And I will respect anyone's opinion as long as the respect flows both ways.  :cheers

I'm just not sure what you're disagreeing with, that's all...  None of the guys you mentioned are suiting up for the Raiders.... And all I said, was it would have to be a "big name" draft pick, or "big name" FA to legitimately challenge him for his spot... Or it would be no challenge at all...


 24 
 on: January 15, 2019, 05:00:39 PM 
Started by ElevatorRaidersfanPA - Last post by Earl
The only way for him to "compete" in TC, is to bring in legit competition...

Agreed


You guys can't say, "Carr needs to be the man moving forward" and then be "ok" with competition...

Bullshit! We can do exactly that. Give me one good reason we can't?


True comp for Carr will have to be a high profile draft pick or Free Agent, period... a 4th round prospect or league journeyman won't do the trick...

So either Carr is the guy... or you draft someone to BE the guy.... there is no in between...

You wouldn't have considered Plunkett or Gannon League Journeyman? What about Kurt Warner? HE went undrafted, spent time in the Arena League for gods sake's, and bagged groceries before winning superbowls. Brady went in the 6th. Russel Wilson went in the 3rd. Montana went in the 3rd. Thiesman went in the 4th. Gannon went in the 4th. There are more but I would like to think you would get the picture. (Let me guess, "you could name more, but you didn't so you can't" is coming my way)

So really, Carr could be the guy. And we could draft legit competition in then later rounds.

It's quite possible.

If you say so...

Either Carr is the man... Or he isn't... there is no in between...

You think some no name is going to come here and push Carr out of the starting spot, so be it...

I don't see it happening... Especially when DC get's 99% of the reps... and maybe 20 snaps total in preseason...

If it's not a big name draftee or Free Agent, it won't happen... What comes with those are fan and media pressure. (which are usually the driving factors of QB changes).. Not going to get that with Joe Shmoe from the 6th round... or Nathan Peterman... Sorry you feel differently...

I would hardly call any of the names I mentioned as a Joe Shmoe type players. All are former pro-bowlers, Superbowl winners, and/or Hall of Famer's. But OK.

I would agree that as rounds (draft) or years (journeyman) go by, the odds of finding a gem get worse. But it's still a possibility that seems to happen at least fairly often.

I'm not sorry I feel differently. Nor am I sorry you feel differently. We can disagree and that is fine. I'm good with that. I feel there can be plenty of in between and in between opinions. And I will respect anyone's opinion as long as the respect flows both ways.  :cheers


 25 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:56:30 PM 
Started by Raider 8 - Last post by Raider 8
Cooper had 6-65 and a TD and Gallup had 119 yds.

It would be hard to find a one cell creatue in the Galaxy that is dumber than peters

Who's playing next week?

Peters or Cooper?

In the game of football (especially playoffs)... the winner can say whatever the FUCK he wants...  there is no "Game 2"...

IJS...

That's the exact response I would expect from you, you and Peters would get along great.

 26 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:45:53 PM 
Started by ElevatorRaidersfanPA - Last post by varaider
The only way for him to "compete" in TC, is to bring in legit competition...

Agreed


You guys can't say, "Carr needs to be the man moving forward" and then be "ok" with competition...

Bullshit! We can do exactly that. Give me one good reason we can't?


True comp for Carr will have to be a high profile draft pick or Free Agent, period... a 4th round prospect or league journeyman won't do the trick...

So either Carr is the guy... or you draft someone to BE the guy.... there is no in between...

You wouldn't have considered Plunkett or Gannon League Journeyman? What about Kurt Warner? HE went undrafted, spent time in the Arena League for gods sake's, and bagged groceries before winning superbowls. Brady went in the 6th. Russel Wilson went in the 3rd. Montana went in the 3rd. Thiesman went in the 4th. Gannon went in the 4th. There are more but I would like to think you would get the picture. (Let me guess, "you could name more, but you didn't so you can't" is coming my way)

So really, Carr could be the guy. And we could draft legit competition in then later rounds.

It's quite possible.

If you say so...

Either Carr is the man... Or he isn't... there is no in between...

You think some no name is going to come here and push Carr out of the starting spot, so be it...

I don't see it happening... Especially when DC get's 99% of the reps... and maybe 20 snaps total in preseason...

If it's not a big name draftee or Free Agent, it won't happen... What comes with those are fan and media pressure. (which are usually the driving factors of QB changes).. Not going to get that with Joe Shmoe from the 6th round... or Nathan Peterman... Sorry you feel differently...

You're naming all these past guys...   How about naming one RIGHT NOW... that could come and challenge Carr, not named Nick Foles (big name FA I mentioned above), who'll probably get a STARTING gig somewhere next season... Or one of these 6th round picks you must know about that the world doesn't...  I'll wait... as if 2018 didn't present MORE THAN ENOUGH opportunities for one of these "God-Send" journeymen to show themselves...

Or are you just mad again, because I expresses MY opinion... eh?  Sure was an awful lot of "personal" vibe coming from that comment.. LOL!


 27 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:25:26 PM 
Started by varaider - Last post by Earl
Quote
Paul Gutierrez  @PGutierrezESPN

"Absolutely false." - Raiders owner Mark Davis, on report that he is meeting with Oakland Coliseum board on Friday. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41052961-4

1:57 AM - 15 Jan 2019

Damn, I was really hoping some progress was being made in Oakland. BOOO!

 28 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:23:06 PM 
Started by ElevatorRaidersfanPA - Last post by Earl
The only way for him to "compete" in TC, is to bring in legit competition...

Agreed


You guys can't say, "Carr needs to be the man moving forward" and then be "ok" with competition...

Bullshit! We can do exactly that. Give me one good reason we can't?


True comp for Carr will have to be a high profile draft pick or Free Agent, period... a 4th round prospect or league journeyman won't do the trick...

So either Carr is the guy... or you draft someone to BE the guy.... there is no in between...

You wouldn't have considered Plunkett or Gannon League Journeyman? What about Kurt Warner? HE went undrafted, spent time in the Arena League for gods sake's, and bagged groceries before winning superbowls. Brady went in the 6th. Russel Wilson went in the 3rd. Montana went in the 3rd. Thiesman went in the 4th. Gannon went in the 4th. There are more but I would like to think you would get the picture. (Let me guess, "you could name more, but you didn't so you can't" is coming my way)

So really, Carr could be the guy. And we could draft legit competition in then later rounds.

It's quite possible.



 29 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:02:38 PM 
Started by Raider 8 - Last post by varaider
Cooper had 6-65 and a TD and Gallup had 119 yds.

It would be hard to find a one cell creatue in the Galaxy that is dumber than peters

Who's playing next week?

Peters or Cooper?

In the game of football (especially playoffs)... the winner can say whatever the FUCK he wants...  there is no "Game 2"...

IJS...

 30 
 on: January 15, 2019, 04:00:18 PM 
Started by 805raiderslo - Last post by varaider
No way.. he's a "Reggie" guy... And Reggie sucked at draft picks... Not possible...

Miller was Gruden/Cable's guy...

Gareon Conley
Karl Joseph
Amari Cooper
Khalil Mack

Just saying, his last 4 first round picks were ass... even tho 2 of them broke out this year, and the other 2 got us 3 first rounders in return...

Oh Boy.

Lay down on the couch over there...

The Doctor: So tell me when this issue first started.. :o

Clearly I was joking..  lol...

But there are some here who'd say.... ahh... never mind...

JG & MM... you're on the clock!

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