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Raider Gridiron / Re: Carr ranked as one of the worst QB's in 2018
« on: February 19, 2019, 08:07:23 PM »
He had no one to throw too and no one to protect him..  lol

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Raider Gridiron / Re: 2019 DRAFT THREAD
« on: February 16, 2019, 11:29:55 AM »
#4 Josh Allen, Quinen William's, Nick Bosa.  In That order.

#24 Montez Sweat, Brian Burns,


#27 Gerry Tillary, Dexter Lawrence, Devin Bush

Also if we can Trade Carr and get back into the top half of the first I'm either taking
Clelinn Ferrel, Greedy William's, Ed Oliver

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Raider Gridiron / Re: It's obvious that Carr needs to go
« on: February 16, 2019, 10:57:18 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0EC7RuW7fI
This is for you Otis.

Don't give up on the kid just yet my brother!

We got many many other holes to fill first until we pull the plug on #4.. JMO
you misunderstand I know carss a good qb.  I just want to get what I can for him.  I want a new team.  New starters.  New building blocks.  Etc.  Carrs ready got a finger, back, leg.  And hes not even 30 yet.  Dudes made of glass.  If I. Starting the team over I'd rather do it with someone who costs less.  Who isn't one big hit from a little a little rascal.  I think as a qb he lacks pocket awareness.  But he can make every damn throw out there.   But there are alot of guys who can do that.  And if were gonna reboot this bitch.  It's time to put on your work boots and get shit done
  Its like ripping off bandaid.  Yeah its gonna hurt for a second but we will be bbn better off in the long run.  Carrs not built for a long careers.  Dudes made of glass. 

I saw someone semi echoing my sentiment.  He said he wanted defense  in the draft.  Offense special teams in free agency.  With a caveat of extenuating circumstances.....  if there's super value to be had say a first round talent falls to the third round or something.  We have a ton of picks then feel free to take a flyer on a high risk high reward guy.  The one and only thing i care about is getting this bbn fucking rebuild over and done with.  If you drag your dick and half ass is trying to stay relevant you will accomplish  nothing...  get in ...get out... get off..  it's like sex with Kobe Bryant kick and scream all you want shits gonna happen.  Might as well dive in head first.  This team currently constituted us a dumpster fire.  You can try to patch holes with fa's. All you want.  All your gonna be is that little Dutch boy with his fingers in the damn trying to stop the water.  We spent 20 years doing that shit.  How did that go for us?  We rebuilt with Jack.  It worked.  Until politics and bad management blew it up.  Well when your left with the remnants and hirt feelings and I'll will all you can do is blow it up.  I said it then I'm still saying it.  They all need to go.  No picking sides.  There is no sides anymore, just recovery.  This was septic...shit.  shit bbn fortwo years.  Yeah we stank last year...is it John's fault no...we stunk before he got here.  It's time to finish the rebuild.  Let's do this

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Penn "losing Mack took toll on team"
« on: February 15, 2019, 12:51:26 PM »
I'd rather cut the Cable-guy before any of our players on the line. I think all of them, Penn and Miller included, can perform at a high level under the right direction.
Penn is old, Injury prone and has us over paid.  Three very bad things to be during a rebuild if you want to retain your current job.  Either take a drastic pay cut or kick rocks.  Plus I'm still not over carrs back

Some of the best Tackles in NFL history were "old"...

I wouldn't calla guy who hadn't missed a single game due to injury for 10 seasons "injury prone"...

And currently, he counts as 3% towards our cap... and is the 20th highest paid Tackle in the league...

And Carr's injuries were FLUKE... could happen with even the BEST tackle in the league... With his leg, that was the first sack Penn gave up that entire season (at like week 16 or 17)....  And even Carr admits himself, that he should have went down, instead of trying to break out...

I also believe the back injury was the first sack given up that year as well... Shit happens... Maybe its the QB who's "injury prone"...

You say take a drastic pay cut, as if we don't have to pay someone ELSE, at the most EXPENSIVE position on the OL...  Dude is 20th in salary... That's a bargain...

Penn should be the LEAST of our worries at Tackle, for at LEAST this year and next... He can still play... IF they move him back to where he belongs... LT... That was the dumbest move ever, IMO...  Another example of Gruden outsmarting himself...  (If it ain't broke don't fix it)
yes.  But do.you want to be standing there holding the hot potatoes when he goes on IR for the rest of the year again and the decides to retire?  No thanks let someone else eat that dead cap.  No thanks were rebuilding man.....Donald Penn more than any other Offensive lineman just makes sense.  Find someone younger and cheaper

Another team can't "eat" another team's dead cap... It's dead meaning it belongs to whatever team cut/traded the player...

We found someone younger/cheaper last season... he ended up being the worst Tackle in the league...

Do you want to hold the potatoes if he plays out the whole season?  Works both ways brother...

It would be STUPID to get rid of Penn, at his salary... with the current Tackles we have...
hahahaha your making one incorrect assumption.  I'm not looking to win again next year.  That's why I dont care who's under center.  That's why I dont care who's protecting.  Fuck the vets on this team.  They quit on themselves.  They can all go except a select few and all the up and comers.  Let the Vegas team not be tainted by that bullshit we saw.  By the team that imploded itself.  Let Vegas get a fresh start

I'm always looking to win... sorry...
I wanna win too.  But I don't just want one year then nothing.  This team had its chance. They couldn't maintain it.

Coaching sucked just as much, if not more... for 2 years straight, IMO...
agreed shit.  But the d.coaching staff is gone. We have what we have and if they were gonna get rid of the cable mlm guy he'd be gone already.  So we gotta make bbn what we.have work.  Sooo. Yeah meh. 

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welcome aboard bud =) oops maybe alittle late ok n that one  ;D

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Raider Gridiron / Re: It's obvious that Carr needs to go
« on: February 14, 2019, 04:29:56 PM »
This is my guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1167E8_LM
hes really good.  But he cant have my number 4 pick hahahaha might be gone before we pick bbn anyhow

I don't want him at 4...

I want him at 27 or in the 2nd if he's there...

If not, I'm content with rolling with Carr... I just want legit competition in camp with him... And Haskins could be that (or Murray)...  And either way, there's stiil a decent QB class coming out next year...
second round yeah I'm fine.  First round.  Nope unless we somehow  get more picks then he can have the lowest

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Grading Raiders 2017 draft class after second season
« on: February 13, 2019, 06:06:43 PM »
Always find a way to hate on the man, never fails here...

I said during his last couple years here that he was just starting to come into his own... I'm just glad to see him still balling... I guess most forgot how the man is even lucky to even be alive, this game almost cost him his life... and he still has the heart (LITERALLY) to play it...  So I'll ALWAYS be a fan...

And to see him thriving is a good thing... Mind you, he's on the same team as arguably the best CB in the league, and graded higher than him... And the AFC South is LOADED with CB talent... I believe Kareem Jackson is the best CB on the market right now, Grade-wise and opinion...

(FYI, he graded higher than every CB on our team not named Conley... Ouch, I bet that stings for the haters)
Hayden didn't turn out to be bad.  But honestly he never lived up to his draft status.  And guys like that get cut by the teams that draft them for the most part.  I'm glad he was able to stick somewhere.  Good for him.  The raiders ran out of patience

That's something I have always disagreed with...

IMO, the player is the player...  not the draft pick... So he shouldn't be judged by his pick number, the GM should, because it was the GM (RM) who made him be that certain pick...

Case in point, the perceived top CB of that draft Dee Milliner (9th overall)... is no longer in the league... Or Xavier Rhodes (25th overall), the actual best CB of that draft... still in the league...

So "living up to the draft pick" falls on the GM.... Being a good football player is on the player... JMO...
I totally dont think it's fair to hmm player but money is money.  And when the production doesnt meet the money.  How as the owner can u justify keeping them.  Top 10 picks are supposed to be impact players.  And as a dp if hes drafted top.ten then come contract time hes going to go bn for lockdown money.  And ifnthe production doesnt meet what their ask in ng for it makes sense

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Penn "losing Mack took toll on team"
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:19:04 PM »
I'd rather cut the Cable-guy before any of our players on the line. I think all of them, Penn and Miller included, can perform at a high level under the right direction.
Penn is old, Injury prone and has us over paid.  Three very bad things to be during a rebuild if you want to retain your current job.  Either take a drastic pay cut or kick rocks.  Plus I'm still not over carrs back

Some of the best Tackles in NFL history were "old"...

I wouldn't calla guy who hadn't missed a single game due to injury for 10 seasons "injury prone"...

And currently, he counts as 3% towards our cap... and is the 20th highest paid Tackle in the league...

And Carr's injuries were FLUKE... could happen with even the BEST tackle in the league... With his leg, that was the first sack Penn gave up that entire season (at like week 16 or 17)....  And even Carr admits himself, that he should have went down, instead of trying to break out...

I also believe the back injury was the first sack given up that year as well... Shit happens... Maybe its the QB who's "injury prone"...

You say take a drastic pay cut, as if we don't have to pay someone ELSE, at the most EXPENSIVE position on the OL...  Dude is 20th in salary... That's a bargain...

Penn should be the LEAST of our worries at Tackle, for at LEAST this year and next... He can still play... IF they move him back to where he belongs... LT... That was the dumbest move ever, IMO...  Another example of Gruden outsmarting himself...  (If it ain't broke don't fix it)
yes.  But do.you want to be standing there holding the hot potatoes when he goes on IR for the rest of the year again and the decides to retire?  No thanks let someone else eat that dead cap.  No thanks were rebuilding man.....Donald Penn more than any other Offensive lineman just makes sense.  Find someone younger and cheaper

Another team can't "eat" another team's dead cap... It's dead meaning it belongs to whatever team cut/traded the player...

We found someone younger/cheaper last season... he ended up being the worst Tackle in the league...

Do you want to hold the potatoes if he plays out the whole season?  Works both ways brother...

It would be STUPID to get rid of Penn, at his salary... with the current Tackles we have...
hahahaha your making one incorrect assumption.  I'm not looking to win again next year.  That's why I dont care who's under center.  That's why I dont care who's protecting.  Fuck the vets on this team.  They quit on themselves.  They can all go except a select few and all the up and comers.  Let the Vegas team not be tainted by that bullshit we saw.  By the team that imploded itself.  Let Vegas get a fresh start

I'm always looking to win... sorry...
I wanna win too.  But I don't just want one year then nothing.  This team had its chance. They couldn't maintain it. 

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Lol just checked.  I had  no idea I've been posting here for ten years.  Lol goes quick.  That's alot of losing hahaha
Blink of an eye, isn't it?
yessir

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Flacco now an ass
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:17:03 PM »
Hahaha

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Raider Gridiron / Re: It's obvious that Carr needs to go
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:16:39 PM »
Nope. I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling about a 5'8" QB running an NFL offense running against NFL defenses. I want a guy that can stand tall in the pocket and have the mental aptitude to make pre snap reads and manipulate the defense and make the proper throws and reads. Should he have enough athleticism to move around and scramble when needed? Sure, but these small QB that play at the college level like it's a video game? We have seen that story too many times. I'll pass. Not every small dude that can make plays in college is going to be the new P McHolmes.
the kids electric.  I agree typically give me the prototypical guy.  But he dont take hits.  And he can really throw the damned ball.  If I wasnt on my defensive kick I'd be ok drafting him

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Raider Gridiron / Re: It's obvious that Carr needs to go
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:14:41 PM »
This is my guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1167E8_LM
hes really good.  But he cant have my number 4 pick hahahaha might be gone before we pick bbn anyhow

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Raider Gridiron / Re: It's obvious that Carr needs to go
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:13:24 PM »
Found it...

Quote
Sam Monson @PFF_Sam

Kyler Murray had 5 passes batted down last season.

Daniel Jones (6'5) had 12.
Drew Lock (6'4) had 8
Will Grier (6'1) had 1
Dwayne Haskins (6'3) also had 5

Batted passes isn't connected with QB height, statistically.

6'6 Joe Flacco led the NFL in BP rate last season.

12:11 PM - 12 Feb 2019

That's pretty good, he was out of the pocket a lot though in that Oklahoma offense. I'm also scared of him running and getting a serious jury and losing our franchise QB.

After thinking about a lot of our options, I think I'd stick with Carr for next year. I'm curious to see if him and the whole offense is any better in year two.
lol fell be gone before I'd be comfortable taking him.  Simply. Because I want defense.  But dudes slides.  He doesn't take big hits. 

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Grading Raiders 2017 draft class after second season
« on: February 12, 2019, 06:04:40 PM »
Always find a way to hate on the man, never fails here...

I said during his last couple years here that he was just starting to come into his own... I'm just glad to see him still balling... I guess most forgot how the man is even lucky to even be alive, this game almost cost him his life... and he still has the heart (LITERALLY) to play it...  So I'll ALWAYS be a fan...

And to see him thriving is a good thing... Mind you, he's on the same team as arguably the best CB in the league, and graded higher than him... And the AFC South is LOADED with CB talent... I believe Kareem Jackson is the best CB on the market right now, Grade-wise and opinion...

(FYI, he graded higher than every CB on our team not named Conley... Ouch, I bet that stings for the haters)
Hayden didn't turn out to be bad.  But honestly he never lived up to his draft status.  And guys like that get cut by the teams that draft them for the most part.  I'm glad he was able to stick somewhere.  Good for him.  The raiders ran out of patience

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Raider Gridiron / Re: Penn "losing Mack took toll on team"
« on: February 12, 2019, 06:02:53 PM »
I'd rather cut the Cable-guy before any of our players on the line. I think all of them, Penn and Miller included, can perform at a high level under the right direction.
Penn is old, Injury prone and has us over paid.  Three very bad things to be during a rebuild if you want to retain your current job.  Either take a drastic pay cut or kick rocks.  Plus I'm still not over carrs back

Some of the best Tackles in NFL history were "old"...

I wouldn't calla guy who hadn't missed a single game due to injury for 10 seasons "injury prone"...

And currently, he counts as 3% towards our cap... and is the 20th highest paid Tackle in the league...

And Carr's injuries were FLUKE... could happen with even the BEST tackle in the league... With his leg, that was the first sack Penn gave up that entire season (at like week 16 or 17)....  And even Carr admits himself, that he should have went down, instead of trying to break out...

I also believe the back injury was the first sack given up that year as well... Shit happens... Maybe its the QB who's "injury prone"...

You say take a drastic pay cut, as if we don't have to pay someone ELSE, at the most EXPENSIVE position on the OL...  Dude is 20th in salary... That's a bargain...

Penn should be the LEAST of our worries at Tackle, for at LEAST this year and next... He can still play... IF they move him back to where he belongs... LT... That was the dumbest move ever, IMO...  Another example of Gruden outsmarting himself...  (If it ain't broke don't fix it)
yes.  But do.you want to be standing there holding the hot potatoes when he goes on IR for the rest of the year again and the decides to retire?  No thanks let someone else eat that dead cap.  No thanks were rebuilding man.....Donald Penn more than any other Offensive lineman just makes sense.  Find someone younger and cheaper

Another team can't "eat" another team's dead cap... It's dead meaning it belongs to whatever team cut/traded the player...

We found someone younger/cheaper last season... he ended up being the worst Tackle in the league...

Do you want to hold the potatoes if he plays out the whole season?  Works both ways brother...

It would be STUPID to get rid of Penn, at his salary... with the current Tackles we have...
hahahaha your making one incorrect assumption.  I'm not looking to win again next year.  That's why I dont care who's under center.  That's why I dont care who's protecting.  Fuck the vets on this team.  They quit on themselves.  They can all go except a select few and all the up and comers.  Let the Vegas team not be tainted by that bullshit we saw.  By the team that imploded itself.  Let Vegas get a fresh start

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