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Raider Gridiron / Derek Carr Currently On Right Side Of NFL Change
« on: December 14, 2018, 08:16:10 PM »
 by Will Tyrrell
December 14, 2018

The National Football League evolves faster than people may like to believe.

Two years ago, the Bears traded up one spot to grab Mitch Trubisky at number two overall. They are now on their way to the playoffs.

Three years ago, we argued who was going to be the better of the two between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston. You could argue if you want, but both quarterbacks have been underwhelming and no one would blame either team from moving on.

Two years ago, Derek Carr was the MVP candidate and some fans may consider him underwhelming.

Carr’s past two games have provided some optimism this team didn’t have two weeks ago.

The next three games against, The Cincinnati Bengals, Denver Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs can provide even more optimism going forward.

The last two weeks, he was top 10 among all quarterbacks in QBR, 123.2 122.4, and passing yards, 285 and 322.

His most notable highlight was his game winning drive against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.

It finally seems to look like Carr is fitting into Gruden’s offense.

Carr was asked by reporters on Wednesday how his comfort has grown and what he sees going forward.

“To know that we’ve come so far in such a difficult offense to learn, mentally to play in, but once you see it start to work it’s kind of like this beautiful art piece,” Carr said. “You see it – a little bit of chaos in the beginning – and then at the end you’re like, ‘Oh, that looks pretty nice.’ It feels like that, it feels like it could be that. But, none of that matters unless everyone continues to work how we’ve been working and taking care of business on and off the field. Because if we can do that and get the right people doing that, this thing could look really nice.”

Gruden’s success in Oakland will be tied to Carr. I wrote it in the summer and I stand by it.

There was speculation about the Raiders potentially drafting a quarterback in the spring.

Personally, I find it hard to believe Gruden would willingly put himself through another offseason teaching someone his complicated offense.

If Carr went through growing pains, imagine what a rookie would do. Especially this class, which isn’t spoken highly of.

Whether he meant what he said, or meant to shoot down the idea of drafting a quarterback, here is what Gruden told reporters on Wednesday about Carr’s growth and future.

“I don’t know what else to say,” Gruden said. “Some people…you’re entitled to write what you want about us looking for another quarterback. Derek Carr is a great quarterback. He can play with…like I said it doesn’t matter who the running back is, who the guards are, who the receivers are. The guy is a heck of a player. When you got a quarterback in this league, you have a chance I always say.”

This thing, whatever you want to call this season, was a disaster.

In the NFL though, it can change.

The Cleveland Browns were 0-16 last year and are now in playoff contention.

These next three games, while you may want the higher draft pick, are big for Raiders fans optimism heading into the offseason.

Imagine if Carr continues to grow and puts up numbers that land him in the top tier of quarterback? You, the fans, have optimism for next season.

Something you didn’t have two weeks ago.

Exactly. Does it really matter who is named or who is naming him/her?

We all know Gru is going to pick his guy. You would, I would, everybody would.

At the same time we can't let Mark Davis become irrelevant. He is the owner.

And I'm OK with all that.

Everybody need to be pulling in the same direction.

Don't matter one bit to me if the guy filling the seat is a big name or a no name.

Makes sense when you think about it. I couldn't figure out the timing of RM firing. Why not do him a large and go their separate ways after the season?

This is the season end "tryout"  ;) of be followed by being named permanent GM.

At least that's how I think, and hope it will end up.

RM was offered the opportunity to finish the season...

He declined...

How can he have a "tryout" when Free Agency is over, the trade deadline is passed, and the draft is 5 months away...

The only tryout going on, is to see who's ass Gruden's hand fits perfect inside... as his puppet...

It's to get him in studying film, team, evaluating, getting to know the facilities, meeting staff, evaluating incoming.

Makes the offer of the permanent gig seem more logical .

But he's already been doing that...

I believe this is the guy who was running the separate "Gruden Scouting Dept" that was set up before the last draft...

Works for me.

Raider Gridiron / Martavis Bryant suspended for substance abuse
« on: December 14, 2018, 07:19:39 PM »
 Martavis Bryant has been suspended indefinitely for violating the NFL policy on substance abuse.

The NFL announced Friday that Bryant has violated the terms of his conditional reinstatement in April 2017 and has been placed back on the suspended list for an indefinite period of time.

Bryant is currently on injured reserve with a knee injury. He is in the final year of his contract and eligible for free agency next year.

Raider Gridiron / Re: Raiders Can Run The Table......Here's Why
« on: December 14, 2018, 06:47:53 PM »
Well after the chefs choked tonight against the dolts, they're both in a dogfight for the AFC West title and home field advantage in the playoffs.

It would be great to piss on their parade, but the odds just got a lot steeper against us.

And you sir would be correct.

Never saw that coming. Wake up call to the chefs no doubt.


Makes sense when you think about it. I couldn't figure out the timing of RM firing. Why not do him a large and go their separate ways after the season?

This is the season end "tryout"  ;) of be followed by being named permanent GM.

At least that's how I think, and hope it will end up.

RM was offered the opportunity to finish the season...

He declined...

How can he have a "tryout" when Free Agency is over, the trade deadline is passed, and the draft is 5 months away...

The only tryout going on, is to see who's ass Gruden's hand fits perfect inside... as his puppet...

It's to get him in studying film, team, evaluating, getting to know the facilities, meeting staff, evaluating incoming.

Makes the offer of the permanent gig seem more logical .

« on: December 14, 2018, 06:31:01 PM »
January 2nd 2000

Raiders 41  Chiefs 38

My first game ever. First possession we went 3 and out. Chiefs ran back the punt for a TD.

They opened up a 10 point lead in the 1st quarter and I thought we were screwed. But we came back and won.

Wheatley had a bad ass run in that game.

It was a blast!! Fuck KC!!!

That is the game I also was referencing. You know who kicked the  game winning FG?

Kicker was Joe Nedney apparently.

Here's the game breakdown. Enjoy...  :cheers

I didn't manage to see too many games back then. I was in the Royal Air Force at the time and flying in and out of the country a lot. I also had no internet in my accommodation on the base. I was only able to keep in touch with what was happening through a weekly publication called First Down and using Internet Cafes. I do remember us reaching the Championship Game the following year and eagerly searching out an Internet Cafe to find the result, only to be gutted when I read the Ravens beat us. Felt good knowing we were finally competing again though.

Bless you brother.

 JOE FREAKING NEDNEY  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

OMG! Hall off famer Joe. I will forever love that guy, even though I might forget him.  ;D

 As Archie would say...............

Those were the days


Raider Gridiron / Re: Cooper was not happy in Oakland
« on: December 14, 2018, 06:25:16 PM »
Chris Mortenson @mortreport

Jon Gruden on Amari Cooper deal: ""I hate to see good players go.. I was on the practice field when Reggie came to me and said Cowboys would do this for a No. 1 and I said let's do it. We now have five No. 1 picks in the next two years so I'm excited about that."

So either Coop or Gruden is lying... (Fact)

Take your pick...🤔🤔🤔

How so.  Mark could have said he wanted to do the deal and told Reggie to run it by Gruden. 

From what I've read Coops agent is a hard core negotiator.  Cooper was going to hold out for top money and miss all of the off season and camp without the deal he wants. 

When the number 1 was put on the table I'm sure it made it easier for everyone to get on board.

Cooper will fade in and out with the Cowboys just like he did here.  He also can't stay healthy.

That's the story. Same reason we said goodbye to Mack

Ed Oliver has signed with Joel Segal for representation, per sources.— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) December 7, 2018

Why does this matter? Well, because rumor has it the Raiders were not happy with Segal for refusing their contract offers, which they considered to be fair. Mack eventually got market value of $23.5 million after Aaron Donald re-signed with the Rams for $22.5 million.
This led to Segal asking to have his other Raiders client, Amari Cooper, traded as well.

We have a new stadium in Omaha.

We would sell out every week.  ;D

As always...... I'm sure the truth lay somewhere in the middle.

Raider Gridiron / Re: Raiders Can Run The Table......Here's Why
« on: December 13, 2018, 10:59:26 PM »
Don't think Holmes boy will even play week 17 and if he does, a lot of running and only a half.

Unless the queefs have incentive to win..... brings em down to our talent level.

Raider Gridiron / Raiders Can Run The Table......Here's Why
« on: December 13, 2018, 05:11:26 PM »
I'm calling my shot.  :beer

Cincinnati Bengals

This week the Raiders slide into Cinci. These two teams are headed in different trajectories. Bengals will be parting ways with their head coach after this season. Their best players are on IR. The Bengals players have packed it in.

Raiders 20
Bengals 17

Denver Broncos.

This is a Divisional game and it will be a war. Week 3 Raiders lost by 1 point in Denver. This is a different Raider team in many ways since the last Denver game plus it's at home and it's on Monday nite. Going to be different this time around.

Raiders 24
Broncos 17

Kansas City.

I know what you're thinking...... ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?????? Sometimes I think so, but not this time. Last week of the season the Chiefs will have nothing to play for and will be resting their players. We catch em at a good time and go into Arrowhead and get the W.

Raiders 27
Chiefs 24


Joe Mixon had one of the best games of his career in yet another Bengals loss — making it seven of their past eight, and counting. He sees no reason to slow down even as another season slips away in Cincinnati.

"Right now, we are down but we ain't out, so that's how I'm approaching it," the second-year running back said. "I'm going to approach it like we're in."

Technically, the last-place Bengals (5-8) aren't eliminated from playoff contention despite their third-longest losing streak in coach Marvin Lewis' 16 seasons. They could still get the AFC North title if they win out and the Steelers, Ravens and Browns all fall apart the rest of the way.

A loss Sunday to the Raiders (3-10) would eliminate the pretense and leave Cincinnati with a third straight losing season and a lot of big questions to address in the offseason: Does Lewis stay? Who's the next defensive coordinator? Will anything really change so long as Mike Brown runs the franchise?

By contrast, the Raiders are already in next-year mode. Following a 24-21 win over the Steelers , they fired general manager Reggie McKenzie and launched into a front-office reshuffle in preparation for coach Jon Gruden's second season back with the Raiders.

They don't have a general manager and they're not sure where they'll be playing next season before moving to Las Vegas in 2020, but all that's for later. First, they have to finish a season in flux.

"When you get here, it's just rainbows and butterflies because you made it to the NFL," quarterback Derek Carr said. "All of a sudden, you get new friends every year. I think I've counted I've had like 27 different people in the locker next to me in five years. It just shows you how tough this business is."

Some things to watch Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium:


Carr has found a comfort zone in Gruden's offense. He began the season overly aggressive, throwing eight interceptions in the first five games. Then he got overly cautious, failing to complete a pass of more than 10 yards twice in a span of three games.

He's finally gotten a balance.

Carr has gone a franchise-record eight straight games without an interception and has regained his deep touch. He completed nine passes that traveled at least 15 yards downfield the past two games against Kansas City and Pittsburgh, equaling his total from his previous six games combined. Now he's facing the NFL's worst defense.

"I feel more confident in our system," Carr said. "I feel like my reads are quicker. I feel like I can get through things and eliminate things faster. That feels better."


The Raiders come into the game with major questions on the offensive line. Starting left tackle Kelechi Osemele missed last week's game with a toe injury. Starting right tackle Gabe Jackson is dealing with an elbow injury.

Backup Jon Feliciano was placed on injured reserve with a calf injury, leaving Chaz Green and Denver Kirkland as potential options against Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap and the rest of the Bengals.

"I know that both of them are as tough as they come and if there's a will, there's a way," Gruden said. "They have the will, I know that. We'll just hope for the best."


Paul Guenther left Cincinnati after 13 years on Lewis' staff, including the last four as defensive coordinator, to join Gruden's staff. He knows the Bengals' offense, which is struggling mightily with quarterback Andy Dalton and receiver A.J. Green out for the season because of injuries.

Guenther also is very familiar with Jeff Driskel, who makes his third NFL start in Dalton's place. The Bengals expect Guenther to try to disguise blitzes and coverages to throw off Driskel.

"I know whenever you're going against a quarterback who hasn't played much, as a defense you're always looking forward to it," Bengals linebacker Vincent Rey said.


Mixon had a career-high 26 carries for 111 yards during a 26-21 loss to the Chargers in Los Angeles. He also caught a team-high five passes, becoming the focal point of Cincinnati's depleted offense. The Bengals plan to lean on him heavily in the final three games. The Raiders know he's the one to stop.

"Man, he's good," Gruden said. "He's a great slash. He can stop and start. He has power. He's a good receiver. He's a good blitz pickup guy. He's putting it together in Cincinnati."


A small crowd is expected for the Bengals' final home game. They've gone 3-4 at Paul Brown Stadium before some of the smallest crowds in its history. Their average of 51,673 is the second-smallest attendance since the 65,535-seat stadium opened in 2000.

Read more here:


When you have been an NFL head coach for almost 16 seasons, you’ll likely have built a wide coaching tree, and you’ll probably end up with numerous former players circulating around the league.

This week is almost like a family reunion for Marvin Lewis though.

The Raiders have taken on quite a few former-Bengals of late; they even employ a former coach that was with the team for over a decade, and it is something Lewis seems to enjoy talking about.

“[Paul Guenther] did a fine job here. Since he came here with us in 2004, he hustled, did a lot of different things here and did a good job at all of them,” Lewis told reporters Wednesday. “They’ve morphed around defensively this year with the things they’re doing, but they’ve kind of settled in. Obviously, he had great experience coaching against Pittsburgh, so I thought they did a nice job of getting guys to understand, and they played well.”

Of course, Bengals fans are familiar with Guenther, as he took over the defensive coordinator position for the Bengals when Mike Zimmer became the head coach for the Vikings in 2014. The fact he bounced around as a positional coach with the team since 2004 is probably something most casual fans don’t know.

Guenther really put in the time, so it was a little strange when he opted to move on to the Raiders this offseason for the same position when Cincinnati wanted him back. It probably would’ve saved the Bengals plenty of trouble as his replacement, Teryl Austin, didn’t even manage to last an entire season before getting the boot.

Although, Guenther hasn’t fared that well so far in Oakland either. He was dealt a poor hand when the Raiders opted to trade away Khalil Mack before the season, but Oakland has been so bad, it is hard to blame it all on Mack. The Raiders are ranked 31st in scoring and run defense this year.

Guenther won’t be the only familiar face that Lewis’ Bengals will be going up against on Sunday, though. The Raiders also employ AJ McCarron, Frostee Rucker and Emmanuel Lamur — and those are just the active players. They also have Leon Hall, Reggie Nelson, Justin Murray and Brandon LaFell on injured reserve.

“Obviously Leon and Reggie came out of the same draft. We got Reggie here in 2010, and Leon here in ’07. They had a huge impact on the Darqueze’s (Bengals CB Darqueze Dennard) and Dre’s (Bengals CB (Dre Kirkpatrick) of the world,” Lewis said. “Those guys were great mentors as pros, but now they’re both on IR. Frostee (Rucker) is still playing — he came here in 2004. Emmanuel Lamur (was here) in 2012. They have some guys playing who have been here. (Justin) Murray, who was here during training camp and the end of last season. They have quite a few ex-Bengals.”

It was clear that the Raiders and head coach Jon Gruden knew they were going to have a very young team, so they brought in plenty of experience and great mentorship by adding the Bengals they did. It is a shame we won’t get to see guys like Hall and Nelson, who were such big contributors during their time with the Bengals, play on Sunday. It is also pretty incredible that Rucker is even still around.

“Frostee should write (former Bengals DT) John Thornton a check and say, ‘Thank you, John, for keeping me going and helping me learn how to be a pro’ (laughs). You have to give Frostee credit,” Marvin Lewis said of his former defensive lineman. “I’m telling you, he’s worked his tail off to be still playing like this. You’re happy for him. We picked the right guy, obviously, for him to still be playing like he is right now. But going back to talking about mentors, John Thornton was a great mentor for Frostee.

“The league was going to make it even harder [for Rucker to stick around in the NFL for so long]. Everyone was trying to make it harder. But to his credit, he overcame it. It’s what you do once you’re here that counts. I think that’s important.”

People always make a big deal about the high-profile players playing for so long, but sometimes, the most impressive thing is when a player like Rucker can manage to continue to find role’s on NFL rosters year after year. It takes plenty of commitment to keeping your body in pristine condition in order to play that long, and Rucker sure has done that.

Lewis clearly still has some great memories of his former coaches and players. Hopefully, he is able to have them leave Cincinnati with loss as a going away gift.

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